More than a line: the role of borders in international politics A conversation with Igor Okuniv. Video interview format for international analytics 1. At the end of October, the third issue of our journal "International Analytics" was published. Many comments are received; Several of our colleagues plan to become our new writers. But now I want to tell you a little bit about our video format.
2. We launched it in 2025. And so far we have only had one interview, with MGIMO Rector Anatoly Turkunov. It was devoted to the history and current state of the Russian diplomatic service. Now I announce the second call. His son was the famous Russian political geographer Igor Okuniv. Our third issue opens with an interview with him. Now there is a video version. Let me say right away that this is not an exact copy of the written format. We wouldn't read all our ideas to the audience from a piece of paper; This is not 1979 or 1982. 3. We will continue to develop this format. Maybe in the future we will do podcasts with the main authors of the issues (at least those who traditionally appear on the cover of the magazine).
4. Time codes of our conversation: 00:00 Introduction. Sergey Markadonov and Igor Okuniv on the phenomenon of borders.
02:11 Why are boundaries immutable?
06:09 Real borders: why is an open border more difficult than a closed border?
09:20 An ideal border: border land as a space for development.
14:14 Imaginary boundaries: why do people keep creating them?
19:59 Multiple identities and the dissolution of borders 23:09 Self-imprisoned: how ideas about borders affect politics.
26:30 Globalization and strengthening of the state's border control.
29:13 Borders as "membranes": what awaits us in the future? 5. Watch the video.