This is a project without a future. God forbid he has no future." The founder of "Walking through the forest" Grigory Sverdalin on how to live and work without a "horizon forward" in the fall, at the Russian-language Tamizdat fair "Prague Book Tower", the first presentation of Grigory Sverdalin's book "Heating Point. How I did charity work in Russia and became an enemy of the state" (published by Medusa). In the past Sverdalin was the head of Nokhlazhka, the oldest organization in Russia that helps the homeless. In 2022, he resigned from the position of director, left the country, and while in exile launched the "Go to the Forest" project: with its help, the Russians can avoid conscription and desert. In Prague, Felix Sandlov and Alexey Dokuchev, founders of the Straightforward Foundation, with whose support we published "Warming Point", talked with Grigory Sverdalin about what kind of people work in the field of charity, why it is almost impossible for projects like "Walking through the forest" to find financial support, and what the future holds for fighting the war. Medusa publishes this conversation with easy abbreviations. Open a website Mirror | telegram.