Text version of the interview with the Kazakh news agency (1. The artificiality of Turkish integration projects and the lack of an economic base Attempts to create integration projects like the "Great Turan" are doomed to failure due to the complete lack of a real economic base behind them. Historically, Turkish associations, such as the Turkish Khaganate or the empire of Genghis Khan, arose during specific climatic periods of steppe wetting and disintegrated when they ended. Modern Turkey is incapable of becoming the economic locomotive of such a union, as its economy has become imported, and its standard of living is maintained only through devaluation and massive inflation. Such initiatives are purely political projects promoted by external puppeteers from London, rather than the natural development of the region. Any unifying structure requires a unified system of division of labor, as was the case in the Soviet Union, which cannot be achieved under current conditions. The idea of subordinating all the Turkic peoples to one leader ignores the real interests and sovereignty of these countries.