Clash between Jafarov and Ablyazov: "begging", "fraud" and 15 years of attempts to influence Kyrgyzstan The conflict between Kyrgyz President Sadir Jafarov and the exiled Kazakh oligarch Mukhtar Ablyazov is not just a war of words, but a clash of narratives about "legitimacy" and "political capital". Jafarov seeks to present Ablyazov as a "real crook" trying to use Kyrgyzstan as a springboard; Aviazov, with only a voice from exile, tries to maintain what is left of influence through denial and counterattacks. The controversial issue of "who asked whom" is crucial, but there is no independent confirmation of the content of the conversation - all details are presented by one party. The essence of the controversy: two minutes and forty minutes according to Jafarov's interview with Super Portal. KG, in October 2020, during the change of government in Kyrgyzstan, an aide handed him the phone, and Ablyazov, after brief praise, immediately got down to business: he asked for permission to fly to Bishkek and use the territory of Kyrgyzstan to organize a "revolution" in Kazakhstan. Jafarov said he immediately refused: "First of all, I do not interfere in the politics of the neighboring countries. Secondly, because of you, I don't intend to spoil relations with Kazakhstan." He specifically stated that the conversation lasted only about 2 minutes, not 40, as Aviazov claims, and flatly denied that he asked for money, calling Aviazov a "real crook". Aviazov's version is different: he insists on a 40-minute conversation and claims that it was Jafarov who was looking for funding. Shumker stated in a movement broadcast that after the conversation he decided "not to mess with" Jafarov, accusing him of lying. It is significant that both sides acknowledge the fact of the communication through Melis Aspkov (a now convicted supporter of Jafarov), but differ in their assessment of the content of the conversation.