Orshkin, at the Russia-Africa forum, reported to Putin about the tools that make it possible to move away from the dollar and the euro in international payments: just 5 years ago, we, like many countries in the world, mainly used the dollar and the euro to support Russian foreign trade. Now Russian banks, together with their partner banks in other countries, use various non-banking institutions that use modern digital technologies. They provide worldwide payments that work seamlessly without using the Western financial system, which is inefficient, expensive and associated with a large amount of risk. Siluanov: The A7 company is represented here, which is also starting to work on cross-border payments with Africa. Payments are fast with one click, the cost is only 0.3% - this is extremely low for transactions. Putin: High-tech and convenient for customers, because they instantly transfer online from one currency to another to digital currencies, again to real currencies, again to digital currencies. Everything is completely transparent, in full compliance with international law. No one hurts anyone, no one walks away from any coins, it's just done in a modern way. And it is sovereign, this system. Not related to anything. No one will stop you. From the point of view of modern technologies, it is impossible to cover such calculations.