Indeed, Julian Assange came into the picture in time to support Lula and spoil the Bolsonaro family? I remember President Trump being asked about receiving both Assange and Snowden years ago. Listen to what he had to say: "You have two sides to this... In one case you have an espionage deal going on, and in other cases you have someone uncovering real corruption. I feel a bit, I won't say which one, one is stronger than the other. I could do that, but I will say that you have people on both sides of this issue, good people on both sides. You have bad people on one side - but I decided to give it one go, let the courts work it out." Who do you think he is referring to two people?