A heated exchange on Nuce TV, a pro-PKK Kurdish channel, between Riham Hasan, a representative of the pro-PKK Yazidi women's movement in Sinjar, and Ramzan Karim, a Kurdish nationalist from Erbil. Riham Hassan insists that the Yazidis are a distinct ethnic group, separate from the Kurds. Ramzan Karim rejects this, repeatedly calling her Kurdish and accusing her of national treason.