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It is better not to discuss the presence in the group. without frequency saver. Otherwise, you can fight and start arguing fiercely. Eckhart on how to talk about mindfulness in a group:...it can easily happen that after a few minutes people are completely drawn back into their own minds and mental attitudes, and they even begin to argue passionately about what "presence" really is. That's why I wanted to discourage it. Of course people have a need to discuss. It is the brain's need to speak. But usually it doesn't help. If there is at least one person in the group (maybe it's you) who can act as a holder of the presence frequency in the room, it can prevent the group from descending into total mental activity. So a certain level of presence is maintained, within which this conversation is possible. from lectures

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It is better not to discuss the presence in the group. without frequency saver. Otherwise, you can fight and start arguing fiercely. Eckhart on how to talk about mindfulness in a group:...it can easily happen that after a few minutes people are completely drawn back into their own minds and mental attitudes, and they even begin to argue passionately about what "presence" really is. That's why I wanted to discourage it. Of course people have a need to discuss. It is the brain's need to speak. But usually it doesn't help. If there is at least one person in the group (maybe it's you) who can act as a holder of the presence frequency in the room, it can prevent the group from descending into total mental activity. So a certain level of presence is maintained, within which this conversation is possible. from lectures

It is better not to discuss the presence in the group. without frequency saver. Otherwise, you can fight and start arguing fiercely. Eckhart on how to talk about mindfulness in a group:...it can easily happen that after a few minutes people are completely drawn back into their own minds and mental attitudes, and they even begin to argue passionately about what "presence" really is. That's why I wanted to discourage it. Of course people have a need to discuss. It is the brain's need to speak. But usually it doesn't help. If there is at least one person in the group (maybe it's you) who can act as a holder of the presence frequency in the room, it can prevent the group from descending into total mental activity. So a certain level of presence is maintained, within which this conversation is possible. from lectures

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